The "Other" 4 Note Pattern...

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  • Terry

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Sweet just one more little piece to throw on the fire and keep her going. Thks Mr Hamlin.

  • Lynn R Parker Sr

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Great! …..Can’t wait to put this pattern together with the other 4 note pattern. Thanks! and keep’em coming.

    Lynn

  • Steve

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Both videos have helped me a great deal. I was jamming with Johnny Winter very easily using this. It has given me tremendous confidence. Thank you very much for your analysis.

  • Chris W

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Thanks Griff
    A great way to navigate the fretboard using licks with octave changes. Love the link ideas
    Chris

  • Jeffrey Goblirsch

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Thanks Griff

    Everyone has to realize that it is box 1 or 2, but ithe sequence of notes within the boxes! You go back & forth within the box moving up the box to another Octave Root! Here is the sequence of notes & then it is repeated with each new root octave!

    A G A C A C A G A C A C D C D E D E G E G — A G A C A C D C D E D E G E G – A G A C A C D C D E D E G E G -A

    With out knowing this pattern, you won’t know what to play within the box!

    Jeffrey

  • Steve

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Your unwavering dedication to making the guitar fretboard comprehensible and understandable makes you the best guitar instructor on the internet. You’re helping so many people get so much more enjoyment from their guitar playing, it’s unbelievable. I hope you are reaping the spiritual, if not financial benefits, of what you have meant to your students.

  • Tom Graves

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Great tips Griff. I have learned so many different tools over the years and these kind of lessons help me put them together. I haven’t been able to make the leap myself and your explanations are getting me going. Thanks so much!

  • Adrian Beldon

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Where were you 30 years ago Griff? Thank you, brilliant !

    • I know where I was! I was listening to teachers who said, “just do it and don’t think about it.” In their attempts to make me “feel” things, I did gain some, but the map of the fretboard remained an unnavigable rosetta stone with no translator. Guys like Griff will make the over-all level of guitar playing go higher than ever, because he is the great de-mystifier. Bravo Griff, and Thank you!!!

  • Peter in the UK

    Reply Reply August 20, 2016

    Griff, great work. I’m new to this and loved blues block#1. The tab sheet got me going but I’m struggling to see how you transition from block 2 to 1. Is there a tab sheet for the 2nd video to get me started please?

  • Billy Gebbie

    Reply Reply August 21, 2016

    Thanks Griff, Excellent teaching as usual. Looking forward to next lesson. Billy in Scotland Uk

  • tony

    Reply Reply August 21, 2016

    Awhile back I was asking the question how to connect the boxes. This works and I have been working on it. I do like a five note but I realize that this four can be a five because You may bend a string with a full bend and there You have it. So if you add another note and bend one string then You got six . The other night the guys and i got together and jammed . Four guitars a bass and a drummer. We havent done this for awhile and we were doing a tune that wasnt in the key intended . So with four guitars going I stopped and asked Myself how else could I do this and make it sound good . I was able to make something work so well the bass player got everone to hear what i was doing . He got all excited which made

  • tony

    Reply Reply August 21, 2016

    Its all worth doing the homework .

    • tony

      Reply Reply April 6, 2017

      it helps to pay attension, missed something important on this lesson. the next one should tie it up.

  • Mark

    Reply Reply August 21, 2016

    Always good things from Griff. Such simple steps to take to get to that next level.

    Thanks, friend. You’re great!

  • john

    Reply Reply August 21, 2016

    Griff – once again very excellent teaching. What happened to your ring finger? Looks kind of red and irritated! Take care and keep the great ideas coming.

  • mike z.

    Reply Reply August 21, 2016

    Griff, this is another great lesson . I really like the way you are arranging these 4 note patterns. Thank you so much . Mike Z.

  • Gerry U

    Reply Reply August 21, 2016

    Great Stuff Griff! Simple is better

  • jim

    Reply Reply August 21, 2016

    Great lesson! (as usual!) But be careful where you go with the “attack of the stupids.” Most of your students are older than you, and you just don’t realize yet that each year we (ok, I) get a little stupider! Heck, I already forgot what this +1 thingy is your taking about. But the good news is, I’m almost finished with BGU, and I’ll just be able to start again from the beginning, ‘cuz I sure can’t remember what I did a couple of years ago!

  • Bob

    Reply Reply August 22, 2016

    I’m picking stuff up pretty well except for the vibrato which makes everything so much more effective. I’m at square one and can’t seem to make any headway. Are there any tricks or suggestion other than to keep trying?

  • steve watson

    Reply Reply August 22, 2016

    Cheers Griff ,
    yes i have been watching and trying 95% of your lessons , shame i did not start 20 yrs ago .

  • JR London

    Reply Reply August 22, 2016

    What a great little tip – with significant reward factor . I know the boxes reasonably well and can move pretty freely between them, but never SAW this ‘obvious’ little gem of information that works so very sweetly and can settle you down. As a relative newbie I can easily get that information overload moment, or ‘attack of stupid’…although the latter can/does apply in all areas of my life! haha!

  • anthony comi

    Reply Reply August 22, 2016

    Hi Griff & staff

    It may be a semantic issue but Box I, Box 2 etc are boxes in the traditional sense. Are boxes(1-5) now being called BLOCKS? Are they interchangeable names? Although I’ve reviewed this & the prior video several times I don’t understand Block 1 or 2 “Plus One” Is the scale being broken down by octaves i.e. on Fret V low E string is replayed on Fret 7 string 4 & 3 & then moved along to all other “A” root notes for repetition.

    Thanks for all you help, today & in the past.

    Anthony
    Brooksville Fl

    • Rod Woolley

      Reply Reply December 18, 2020

      The blocks are part of the boxes 1-5 that we learn. My understanding is that Griff is giving folks another way of looking at the fingerboard that may suit their needs and help them to find the notes they need easily and quickly, thus helping them to solo. Many folks might have learned boxes 1 to 5 but then find it hard to string them together and use them. This is one way of breaking through that impasse.. Another way to approach the problem is to learn the two pentatonic extended scales. Its pretty much the same thing I think but just approached differently, and a different way of visualising things.

      • Rod Woolley

        Reply Reply December 18, 2020

        It helps to realise that having learnt boxes 1-5 you don’t have to use all of box 1 and then move to box 2 etc. You can move move between the boxes at any convenient point depending on what you are trying to play. The two extended pentatonic scales represent convenient ways of going up and down the FB.

  • Ginger

    Reply Reply August 24, 2016

    So Cool. still not Ab Fab about Blues Block one and two. My wonderful brain is working on it. AND. of course my fingers. Happy to be heading out in a few months with knowledge and tools and laid down so I can jam with whomever is up for a look-see at me. always Tabs give me confidence initially until it’s burned in my brain and my fingers, Only then can I go on a walkabout around the fretboard and feel no worries. Thank you Griff for all you do..Ginger

  • mike brady

    Reply Reply August 24, 2016

    Your are a great teacher, I’ve played a lot of years with little progression and your teaching enables me to see progress that my same old routine did not produce. Thanks

  • Frank Cash

    Reply Reply August 24, 2016

    These two vids are exactly what I have been waiting for…very helpful. So, thank you so very much for the insight. You are truly the best instructor online.

  • Maurice in Cotswold Hills UK

    Reply Reply August 28, 2016

    I would very much like to have what you play presented additionally in hard copy musical notation. Otherwise brilliant presentations.

  • John Gibbs

    Reply Reply September 6, 2016

    .just another printout on GRIFF’S WALL OF KNOWLEDGE…

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  • Dave

    Reply Reply April 6, 2017

    Griff, every time I think you’ve boiled blues guitar down to it’s simplest essence, you come back and make it even simpler.
    I spent decades knowing all five blues boxes, in any key, quite well. With them I could dabble. You’ve taught me how to make music. Same five notes up and down the neck, but with an infinitely better grasp on how they work, from a much easier perspective. I keep expecting the horns to pop out of your head on one of these videos, because you’ve definitely taken me to the crossroads. Thank you, from the bottom of my nervous soul.

  • Stuart May

    Reply Reply April 6, 2017

    As usual Griff so enlightening, the way you teach is exceptional, and the ongoing stuff expands my music world. Thank you. I don’t suppose you have a keyboard buddy that does the same, as my wife a keyboard player is so envious of me finding such a great teacher. Take care.

  • Ken

    Reply Reply April 7, 2017

    Griff, I never thought I could get up in front of people and play lead guitar, but you gave me the tools I needed and I will be forever grateful for the gift.

  • Jim

    Reply Reply April 7, 2017

    This series opened some doors. Thanks very much.

  • Walter Floyd

    Reply Reply April 7, 2017

    Hi Griffin, I was hoping that there might be a tab for box 2 that I could download.

  • David Griffith

    Reply Reply April 8, 2017

    Yippee to you for opening my mind to further possibilities with that 4 note blues pattern.
    It was that video you made which inspired me, five or six years ago, to ‘give it a go.’
    I got a grasp of the 5 boxes from your blues guitar unleashed course. In a moment of delirium, I gave the course to another aspiring guitarist but that’s o.k. – I’d realised that those boxes were important and persevered with that.
    Lots of backing tracks to play along with and – phew – how to handle the pick without turning it into a shovel? Still working on that. Then there’s note familiarisation across the fretboard – bit slower with that.
    And all the while you remind me that ‘fun’ is essential.
    I’m glad that I’m not making a living from music because I can go at my own pace with music as a lifelong companion.
    You’re a terrific teacher, Griff. …. why my blues playing often sounds more Irish than Blues remains a mystery.

  • Andy Tan

    Reply Reply April 8, 2017

    Hi Griff. Question please. When you mention Blues block 1 & 2 are you referring to minor or major box.? Please enlighten me or anybody comments are welcome . Thks.

  • David Smith

    Reply Reply June 6, 2017

    Very good breakdown, more of that is great. Nace amp sounding great, love mine.

  • Dirk

    Reply Reply May 16, 2020

    Griff,

    Overall an excellent demonstration of four note soloing, but I thought you made a mistake in referring to the pattern on the B and high E string that is part of Box One as Box Two. Yet you seemed to repeat how you were thinking of it as Box Two. Don’t you have to slide up the neck to play in Box Two?

    Thanks for all your videos!

    Dirk

  • Craig Ewinger

    Reply Reply May 16, 2020

    I don’t know what you mean by “plus one” in this video. Craig Ewinger

  • Ron

    Reply Reply May 17, 2020

    Just listening to Griff I feel like a better guitar player already. Thanks for all of your videos Griff, very helpful. You put a lot of fun into practicing. I sometimes play a bunch of dumb notes just to relieve the pressure. Then have fun making sounds. If the tension is high, maybe I’ll just play some crazy wild sounds for fun. Pick dragging down the string anyone? Bash the strings a few time? Maybe a couple of riffs from Pipeline? Who cares? Once you’ve already played some dumb stuff, you can settle down and listen to what comes out. Fingers and ears already know what to do.

    What if a deer in the headlights winked at you and smiled?
    Well, I just like to keep the “play” in playing guitar.

    I heard a story about Tommy Tedesco (famous studio player) who secretly told the band to listen for something different when they played the next tune on their song list. Tommy then proceeded to weave a little nursery rhyme melody (Mary had a little lamb?) within his playing of the main melody.
    The conductor gave him a strange look but didn’t say anything. Lol.

  • Ikechukwu Benson

    Reply Reply December 18, 2020

    I love the videos you send, you just simplify them very well.

    Thanks Griff

  • Frank Dion

    Reply Reply December 18, 2020

    Worked for me. Thanks, Griff…

  • Greg H

    Reply Reply December 18, 2020

    Very reminiscent of Clapton’s “Layla”. Thanks muchly and party on ~~

  • PAUL

    Reply Reply December 18, 2020

    STUPID IS AS STUPID DOSE !

  • David

    Reply Reply December 19, 2020

    Great little lesson. I like watching at 1/4 speed,, makes it that much more interesting lol. Thanks again for your time and lessons

  • David Rhinehart

    Reply Reply December 19, 2020

    Hi , folks , I’d like to give Griff an interesting Slide …is there a way to get it to him personally, to add to his collection, I’m a member and would like to show him my appreciation for helping me get past some of my stumbling blocks, if you could help me do this It would be greatly appreciated,
    Thanks , David Rhinehart, Englewood , Florida

  • Steve McManus

    Reply Reply August 1, 2021

    Wow – talk about the light finally going on. I have learned C-A-G-E-D, practiced the minor and major pentatonic scales, worked on relating and scale patterns to the underlying chords, etc. Yet, when it was time to solo, I still felt it was hot or miss, with more miss than hit. Trying to figure it all out on the fly would twist me into knots But, then yesterday’s lesson was a break through – applying the same 4 note pattern to wherever the root was on the fretboard. Wow. Now, toss in today’s lesson. The simplicity is incredible. Suddenly, it all comes together. Wow – I can now start anywhere on the fretboard, in any key, just by knolwing where the root note is.

  • ian richardson

    Reply Reply August 5, 2021

    Each of the 5 big boxes are made up of smaller 2 string boxes. Boxes within boxes.
    Each of the 5 shapes have the same boxes, just in different orders because of where the notes fall.
    Box 1 on the 6th and 5th string is a small box part of the big box. Strings 5 and 4 another small box, and so on.

    5 small 2 string boxes making up the big 6 string boxes.
    A bit like those big dolls, which have smaller ones inside..Take them all out now you have more dolls to play with. If you like playing with dolls.

    For anyone struggling with the big box or always sounding like you’re playing a scale. Because you spent all that time …learning to play a scale, in two octaves across all 6 strings. This helps fix that self imposed problem. And yes we all do it. Been there done that.

    Each box of 4 notes is one short of a full 5 note pentatonic scale. Be it Major or minor. The 4 note box below A minor box one, frets 3 and 5 strings 1 and 2 for instance just happens to have a C on the 5th fret string 3.

    There are lots and lots of pentatonic scales all over the board..more than you can shake a plectrum at!
    You don’t need all of them at the same time.

    All of which seems obvious enough. But IF you’ve never seen the pentatonics in this way then it’s not obvious until someone shows you it.
    And if you haven’t it’s a bit of a game changer. As simple as it is it’s one of the best things to learn and how to use it.

  • Thomas Puccerella

    Reply Reply December 3, 2021

    how can I get blues block one?
    thank you..

  • Barry

    Reply Reply July 3, 2022

    Great tutorial Griff. BTW, remove D and you have the 4 Base Pairs, AT, TA, CG, GC, that make up DNA. Sorry, this must have something to do with music.

  • Pamela

    Reply Reply July 5, 2022

    Excellent lesson! Thanks for making it so simple….makes a huge difference.

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